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Loading Associations of associations using joins instead of includes

Imagine a Rails scenario where,User model has many associations.So it make look like:- Use includes for lazy loading of all associations Use joins to load all associations that exists For example:-                  A user has many orders.                  Order has many images,videos,comments,testimonials,feedbacks,address,contact_details and annoucements. So,to access a user having a request,with all orders having all associations,we will use the usual includes  like :- User.includes( { orders: [ { :address,:contact_details,:comments,annoucements,feedbacks: [:videos, :images] }] }) will load all users . But,to get all users having all associations present,we can use Joins  like: User.joins( { orders: [ { :address,:contact_details,:comments,annoucements,feedbacks: [:videos, :images] }] }) will load all users with associations present. Hope it helps :)